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October 14, 1998
Harris Hall Main Floor - 6:00 p.m.


Commissioner Steve Cornacchia presided with Commissioners Ellie Dumdi, Bobby Green, Sr., Peter Sorenson and Cindy Weeldreyer present. County Administrator Bill Van Vactor, Assistant County Counsel Stephen Vorhes and Recording Secretary Melissa Zimmer were also present.




a. SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING/Ordinance No. PA 1121/In the Matter of Amending Lane County General Plan Policies (an element of the Lane County Rural Comprehensive Plan) Goal 4 Forest Lands, Policy 5 to Allow Limited Dwellings on Lands Zoned Non-Impacted Forest Lands, F-1 and Adopting a Savings and Severability Clause.

b. SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING/Ordinance No. 4-98/In the Matter of Amending Chapter 16 of Lane Code to Adopt New Provisions to Allow Limited Dwellings on Lands Zoned Non-Impacted Forest Lands, F-1, and Provide Siting and Fire Safety Standards for Those New Dwellings, and Adopting a Savings and Severability Clause (LC 16.210, 16.270)

Commissioner Cornacchia read both ordinances into the record.

Cornacchia announced the Board will be taking public testimony tonight, reflect on it, and then make decisions either two or three weeks from now, depending on how long it takes staff to put together the requisite ordinances.

Kent Howe, Planning Director, reported he and Jim Mann will present a brief presentation. He added he will do a brief statewide perspective and Jim Mann will do a local Lane County perspective on what is before the Board tonight. He said he will be asking and answering the questions, "How did we get here?" "What has happened since the adoption of the legislation in 1993?" "So why are we here tonight?" He said the issue of forest management dwellings goes back to the 1980's. He added it crystallized with 1,000 Friends of Oregon challenging LCDC's 1984 acknowledgment of Lane County's Rural Comprehensive plan. He said at that time because of the discretionary nature of the standard of dealing with forest dwellings, Lane County elected to prohibit dwellings on F1 zoned non-impacted forest lands. He said the County elected to authorize dwellings on F2 zoned impacted forest land. He said the challenge by 1,000 Friends was that the County's provisions for forest management dwellings in the F1 zone did not meet the necessary legal requirements as had been developed in case law. He said as a result of that challenge, the Oregon Supreme Court in 1988 directed LCDC to establish administrative rules that defined necessary for and accessory to. He said in 1990 LCDC amended the definition of necessary for in the Goal 4 Forest Land Rule. He said this is what it read, "A dwelling is necessary where the occupant must spend an extensive amount of time on forest management." He said the definition still proved to be problematic so the 1993 legislature took up the issue through House Bill 3661. He said the legislature's mission was to make these types of land use decisions less discretionary and more clean and objective. He said in doing so, the legislature adopted a new standard, putting to rest the discretionary issue and deemed that one dwelling on 160 acres of forest land was necessary for and accessory to forest management. He said that is how they got there from a state perspective.

Howe stated with regard to what has happened since the adoption of the legislation in 1993 (He showed graphics on forest dwellings that have been approved statewide.) that land divisions and number of dwellings statewide have been on a major decrease from historic trends.

Howe said the reason everyone is here tonight is subsequent to the 1993 legislation. In March of 1994, this Board directed the staff to work with the forest industry as they would be impacted by the new provisions, and develop alternatives that could be adopted locally to implement the new clear and objective standard in the state law. He said this Board has met a number of times in public hearings and work sessions over the last four years. He added staff has done a good job in addressing the Board's questions in providing the facts that are relevant to the proposed alternatives. He said staff's role is to direct the Board toward the applicable criteria and standards that are needed to justify a decision. He said any of the alternatives are consistent with the statewide planning goals, statutes and administrative rules. He said this is a policy decision and staff's role is to help focus on what needs to be done tonight.

Jim Mann, Land Management, reported on citizen effort involved with the project. He said it was on October 16, 1996 that a joint Board/Planning Commission hearing took place on the very proposal. He added with citizen involvement, it has taken more than two years to carefully study the proposals that will be looked at tonight. He added there has been a lot of citizen comment on not having any dwellings in the F1 zone. He said with regard to the box on the check sheet, the first decision the board can make is, "Could new dwellings be allowed in the F1 zone?" He said if the decision is no, then nothing needs to be done any further.

Commissioner Cornacchia opened Public Hearing.

Jerry Rust, 3417 N. Russet, Portland, read his letter into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 1.

Jim Weaver, 33893 Seavey Loop, Eugene, stated that of all the matters he dealt with as representative of this congressional district in the U.S. House of Representatives, the proudest thing he ever did was put 1.5 million acres of forest lands in the statutory wilderness. He asked Cornacchia to give the County a going away gift by leaving the lands alone and defeating the measure.

Robert Emmons, 40093 Little Fall Creek Rd., Fall Creek, read his letter into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 2.

John Bianco, P. O. Box 271, Creswell, presented a slide presentation and read his letter into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 3.

Pam Guthrie, 705 E. 38th Ave, Eugene, said that Cornacchia asked her, "If 35 other counties, the House of Representatives, Oregon Senate, Governor Barbara Roberts and parties to the legislation (including LCDC, 1,000 Friends of Oregon, Department of Forestry) were irresponsible because they created and supported the legislation which would allow dwellings on F1 lands. She added, he asked "If she could point out the inconsistencies that would make approval of F1 dwellings irresponsible decision making." She said only one or two other counties in Oregon have anywhere near the amount of forest land that Lane County has. She said Friends of Oregon lobbied against 3661, and there were no environmentalists at the table when it was crafted. She said fire district representatives from the Department of Forestry concluded in the work session on March 24, that the only way to avoid the problem is not to build on these lands. She added none of the above-referenced groups knew the content of the work session nor the various insurance risk discussions that have occurred on every level. She said the technology being presented to safeguard the proposed dwellings was addressing the wrong problems and would do nothing but endanger property owners by leading them to believe they could extinguish anything more but a recreational barbecue. She added FEMA has issued a regulation stating, "Development subject to damage or that could result in the loss of life shall not be planned or located in areas known to be subject to natural disasters and hazards without appropriate safeguards." She said the State Fire Marshall said that the National Urban Wildland Interface Code will not even be established until some time next year and failure to implement FEMA's approved ordinance will result in suspension from FEMA programs. She told the Board the inconsistencies and discrepancies belong to them.

Nina Lovinger, 40093 Little Fall Creek Rd, Fall Creek, read her letter into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 4.

Lisa Davis, 82741 Clayton Rd., Creswell, she said she opposes an ordinance that is so bad on so many levels. She said houses in the forest are fire hazards. She added the cost for roads, police and schools is an added burden to taxpayers and houses take land out of forest production. She said she wondered why anyone would be in favor of the idea. She said she attended many hearings on the subject and never heard anyone say they were denied building on their land. She said the ordinance is too extreme and to reject the alternatives.

Clara Landa, 1577 Jeppeson Ave, Eugene, said she was very much opposed to F1 prime forest land being considered for residential lots. She said there were developers behind this because they don't care about the outcome as long as they have their money and go ahead with what they want. She said they don't care what the forest will be like and how much danger there will be if houses are built.

John Moriarity, P. O. Box 11211 Eugene, Chair of the Many Rivers Group, Sierra Club, stated he was speaking on behalf of his 2,500 members. He read his letter into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 5.

Pam Huett, P. O. Box 775 Marcola, read her letter into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 5.

Chris Burner,, 29953 Fox Hollow Road, Eugene, said he was urging the Lane County Board of Commissioners to retain the current restrictions on dwellings and F1 forest lands for prudent fiscal reasons. He added before making policy changes that would apply to 690,000 acres of Lane County, the Board should assess the negative impacts the change will have on County residents and taxpayers. He wondered what the costs and benefits would be to the general public. He said the cost for services and facilities to the County will be substantial. He added that numerous studies in Oregon and around the country show that residential development consistently creates a net drain, rather than a gain on the local treasury. He said studies show that farm land and open space generate more revenues in taxes than they cost the local government to serve. He said the result of developing F1 lands will be an additional burden on Lane County taxpayers, who are already struggling to support County operations. He said the Board should take two prudent steps before allowing any further development in the County: 1) a fiscal impact analysis should be conducted of residential development to determine the net cost of expanding the County's development potential and 2) a transportation impact fee should be implemented to recover the cost of transportation infrastructure to serve the new growth. He said the Board's consideration on the issues is greatly appreciated.

Alice Doyle, 78185 Rat Creed Rd., Cottage Grove, read her letter into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 6..

Greg McLaughlin, 2401 W. 22nd, Eugene, stated he is a Board Member and current President of Friends of Eugene. He said it was not a good idea to open F1 forest land for development. He said it violates two of Oregon's central land use planning goals: to protect valuable resource lands for future generations and productive use, and prevent low density urban and rural sprawl that increases taxes to pay for services. He added it has negative impacts on the natural environment. He added there is still vacant RR and F2 land undeveloped in Lane County. He said just don't do it.

Linda Fuller, 2401 W. 22nd, Eugene, said the ordinances are not safe in terms of fire and not needed for housing people. She said they are not endorsed by the County's major newspapers. She added they are not with land use trends in the state. She said they are not ecologically sound, not smart fiscal policy, not good for Lane County economy and not popular with Lane County residents. She added it will not be forgotten how each commissioner votes on the ordinances.

Dan Montgomery, 811 Lariat, Eugene, stated in owns timber land in West Lane County that has been in his family for 50 years. He said in 1983 there were hearings in Lane County regarding rural land use planning and as a result of those hearings, his property was zoned F2. He said two years later it was rezoned F1. He didn't know how or why it happened. He said it is adjacent to other houses and has legal access. He wants to know why he can't build on his own property. He said regarding prospective development of timber land, to divide timber land into 160 acres parcels and try to sell it as subdivision land would be ludicrous compared to what you can get from timber land. He added he supported the fire suppression measures.

Dave Montgomery, 22179 Highway 126, Noti, stated he wondered how many people supported Ballot Measure 64. He said many people would support it and it would rest his whole case. He said he has made a living on the forest land that he lives on and helps his brother manage his land. He said they have no plans to subdivide the F1 forest lands and he doesn't want to see subdivision of F1 forest lands. He said he thinks woodlot owners who own F1 forest land should have the opportunity to site a house on one 160 acre parcel.

Paul Atkinson, 26884 Powell Rd., Eugene, said he did not support Measure 64. He stated he was speaking out of religious conviction. He said in the past, a couple of commissioners stated their Christian beliefs made a difference in how they vote on some issues. He said the earth is the Lord's. He said tonight the Board seems intent on encouraging rich and powerful landholders to speculate in real estate, under the guise of helping the little guy secure his or her private property rights. He asked that before voting, the Board consider all the impacts that can be known to forests, soil, water, air and community. He said to look at the big picture, not the potential of building permit revenues for the County for the next few years. He said individual and community responsibility needs to be insured for the land, so it can be handed down from generation to generation. He said land use issues should be considered religious or spiritual issues. He said responsibility for land comes first in public policy. He asked the Board to vote against the proposal.

Carrieanne Davis, 19046 Greenwood Dr., Leaburg, stated she is a member of the Lane County Planning Commission and sat on one of the first hearings held on the dwelling issue. She said most people that testified were not in favor of allowing dwellings on F1 land. She said she is a believer in citizen involvement and is glad to see so many people in attendance. She urged the Board to not allow dwellings on F1 land.

Jim Thrailkill, Goodpasture Is. Road, Leaburg, stated he was undecided on Measure 64. He added he is Vice President of McKenzie Valley Residents Association. He said the association is a non-profit corporation organized under the laws of the State of Oregon. He said there is a membership of several hundred individuals that live and work in the valley from Cedar Flats to McKenzie Bridge. He said the primary function of its board is to be involved in valley community functions and provide information to residents, County committees and boards. He said rarely did its group take a position on issues until now. He said at the last executive board meeting, they voted to oppose dwellings on F1 lands. He said it was suggested that the paramount goal of government in Oregon should be to preserve the long-term product of productive capacity of forest l ands. He said housing developments can chip away at that capacity. He added the McKenzie Valley Residents Association believes that the Board of Commissioners must keep this in mind as they write rules spelling out where dwellings will be allowed on commercial forest lands. He said if an absolute prohibition on forest homes is impractical or creates hardships, the Association suggests the general rule should be the fewer the better. He said the McKenzie Valley Residents Association opposes allowing dwellings on F1 lands.

Rich Fairbanks, 37290 Wheeler Rd., Pleasant Hill, stated the behavior is different between changing from industrial private land to non-industrial private land. He said the largest difference is the acreage classified as manageable stand absent. (Land that cannot regrow trees.) He said that is how they break down land use. He said of 1.7 million acres of industrial private land, 164,000 or 10% was classified as manageable stand absent. He added these lands are not growing back into forests. He said they are poor wildlife habitat and do not have good hydrologic function. He said it should be put to a vote of everyone in the County, because everyone in the County will be affected in terms of the biological function. He said please do not vote to open F1 lands to housing development.

Tony Foy, 3540 Onyx, Eugene, stated he is speaking as a Eugene resident with questions that have not been answered. He wanted to know why there was a need for such a large scale change to a policy. He wanted to know whose interests were being served by changing the prohibition of building residential homes on F1 lands and wanted to know who benefits. He wanted to know who will pay for the costs of fire protection enforcement of regulations. He said most people will be paying for it but most won't be benefiting. He said that he has not heard a reason to suggest that there needs to be a change.

David Kelly, 2988 Chandler, Eugene, read his letter into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 7.

David Markey, 858 Fox Glenn, Eugene, stated he is opposed to allowing the development. He wanted the Board to consider that breaking up of forest lands will end up with mini-estates. He said from an aesthetic perspective that the Board consider the impacts of the quality of life and what Lane County means to everyone. He said this is about money from the timber industries to turn the land over. He said there will be a secondary impact of having to harvest pubic lands. He said then the timber industry wins and residents of Lane County lose because all the land will be logged over. He asked that due to contributions to Cornacchia, that he abstain from the vote and letting the other commissioners vote.

Ann Krenek, 29475 Fox Hollow Rd., stated the Board has heard from the general public, they are stakeholders and have voted on this issue before. She said they voted to protect this land. She said the Board is interested in the public trust. She said there are inequities in the system and there are lots that are deemed F1 that do need to be rezoned. She stated she fully supports that. She said the protection to F1 lands did not need to be dismantled to take care of the inequities. She asked the Board to think about where they want to be 50 years from now and how are they going to get there.

Carry Moffit, 26210 Ferguson Rd., Junction City, stated he is a farmer and contractor logger. He said there will be more people in the county and there needs to be a way to figure out how they are going to live. He said there can be some innovative and creative solutions but at this time, this proposal is wrong. He said House Bill 3661 was poor legislation. He said any land that was purchased after the time of LCDC's establishment until 1985 as the motion proposes, was speculation. He said it was a gamble that the law would be changed. He added the Board should not be rewarding gambling. He said he is also concerned about secondary lands. He said there are many parcels in the County that have no timber value, little agricultural and wildlife value. He wanted to know why people couldn't build on those sites and respect the F1 lands. He said this is about business and there needs to be a stable environment. He added the County Commissioners and Planning Commissioners cannot continue changing zoning laws. He said he needs the Board's trust that he can do his business.

R. Dale Krenek, 29475 Fox Hollow, stated he is a Lane County resident and is a volunteer in the rural fire department. He said he is concerned about adequate fire protection for the land with access and egress. He wanted to know who was going to make sure the restrictions are complied with. He said he has not heard a straight answer as to why this is being done. He said the County has an option to continue the no houses policy in F1 forests. He said if people want to live in the countryside, there is F2 zoned property, much of which is available. He said only a few people will take advantage of this opening so it is not worth opening up all the land for only a few. He asked the Board not to open the door now.

Betty Taylor, 1051 E. 36th, Eugene, read her letter into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 8.

Nancy Nichols, 1830 Washington, Eugene, stated she owns F1 zoned property in Lane County. She said she is also a real estate broker and understands the issues. She said there is no reason to make any F1 zone property a building lot. She said F1 lots are the highest valued timber lands. She not to take them out of production to create estates for the very few. She said the damage to streams from cutting trees and road building will put endangered trout and salmon populations at great risk. She said carving homesteads out of forest land has a more lasting and harmful impact on wildlife habitat. She added Lane County does not have the funds to monitor compliance and enforce the rules. She said don't tinker with a system that is working fine. She said homesites in F1 zones bring no benefit to the economy, people, fish or wildlife of Lane County. She added the current ones are good ones and to just keep them.

Tom Steinberg, 1830 Washington St., Eugene, stated he is a staff scientist and is an owner of a parcel of F1 zoned property. He said the indirect costs that are implicit in the loss of timberland and wildlife habitat, are a major concern of people that work and live in Lane County. He said he wanted to know who pays to provide the services that these homesites demand. He said the taxpayers will be paying for all of the services. He said conversion of these forest lands to large estates will be costly to the working citizens of Lane County and there will be no benefit.

Misha Seymour, 1313 Lincoln, #306, Eugene stated the change proposed is too extreme. He said to Cornacchia that he might want to become a reborn environmentalist. He said to think about the quality of life, a forest for everyone and not to think about just money.

Genevieve Brackenbusch, 29141 Spencer Creek Road, Eugene, read her testimony into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 9.

Ken Faulk, 35240 McKenzie View Dr., Springfield, stated he is the President of the Lane County Woodlands Association. He said the concern is the ability of woodland owners to live on their own land, and it ranked as a number one issue. He said they were asked if they believed in living on their land provided better management of timber lands and over 80% said they agreed with that statement. He asked the Board to look at the survey the staff has and take the points into consideration.

Emily Schue, 3122 Willamette, Eugene, speaking for the League of Women Voters of Lane County, read her letter into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 10.

Commissioner Cornacchia recessed the meeting, to return at 8:20 p.m.

Leroy Peterson, 39112 Upper Camp Creek Road, Springfield, stated he is a small woodland owner. He said he was in agreement with stewardship of the land. He said as an owner, you do the best job of management as you can. He encouraged the Board to let an owner/operator of F1 land be able to manage his land and be a good steward.

Michael Balk, 260 W. "J" St., Springfield, stated he has forest land in West Lane County and rural residential property on Fall Creek. He read a letter into the record of Neil Miller. Please see attached Exhibit 11.

Greg Hume, 31356 Lynx Hollow Rd, Creswell, stated that Commissioner Rust's idea was good for a public vote. He said if they do allow F1, there will be petitions signed to get it on the ballot. He said people have given good arguments, and for the Board to pay attention to them.

Mary O'Brien, 3525 Gilham Rd, Eugene, said when homes are built, roads are built, landslide and stream sedimentation increase and poaching increases. She said timber companies are provided incentives to log the fragmented lands and then become real estate dealers.

Tim Hermack, 490 Park Avenue, Eugene, stated he was born in Eugene when the population was about 14,000 people. He said at that time very little of the national forest had been logged. He said the waters ran green, not brown. He said there has been tremendous change in public and private lands. He said he is here because of an ill conceived deliberate effort to people who own F1 lands. He said he opposes the rezoning to protect what the state has left. He added he was a strong supporter of Measurer 64. He said if F1 passes, he will be part of the support to put it on the ballot to overturn in. He said people have to protect themselves and to protect what is left of water, river, streams, fish, air and soil. He said sprawl needs to be stopped.

Rita Chamberlin, 6825 "F" St., stated she is asking the Board to vote no. She said she has lived in 23 different cities and Eugene is the only place where you pass a law, then someone deliberately violates it and then nothing is done to the violator.

Conrad Hildebrand, 24787 Lavell, Junction City, stated he lives on 82 acres and has interest of 45 acres in F1 land. He said his F1 property had a house on it at one time, had a road and was a mile from a fire station. He said he couldn't get a building permit. He wanted to know what is so wrong with living on your own land. He said he wants the Board to look at this with a realistic eye.

Bayard H. McConnauaghey, 1633 Fairmount Blvd., Eugene, read his letter into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 11.

Evelyn McConnauaghey, 1653 Fairmount Blvd., Eugene, speaking for the Eugene National History Society, read her letter into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 12.

Dale Riddle, Eugene, stated he was the house counsel for Seneca Saw Mill and Aaron Jones. He said Seneca supports the implementation of HB 3661 as adopted by the 1993 legislature and the additional restrictions and siting standards that are supported by Lane County Land Owners Association. He read his letter into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 13.

Mike Evans, 1071 Harlow Rd, Springfield stated he handed in five letters by people in favor of adoption of the changes in the F1 zone to allow dwellings. He handed out a copy of the Dwelling Checklist. Please see attached Exhibit 14. He said there have been accusations that there is a plot or scheme for certain people to make money and he said that seems to be a thread that runs through the testimony. He said he sees the opposite perspective. He said he has seen an attempt by one segment of the society to control other people's property. He said things are different now, the land use system has changed, the F2 zone is entirely different and said it is time to revisit the issue and make decisions based on current standards.

Geri Betz, 1071 Harlow Rd., Springfield, said that she has learned a lot about land use and a lot of what has been said tonight has been wrong. She said 80% of the information is wrong. She said there is more wrong activity occurring on the lands and something has to happen. She said she wants the Board to get the facts straight and listen to what the facts are and make a decision to give people their property rights back and give them flexibility.

Nyla Jebousek, 36248 Camp Creek Rd., Springfield, said she is an attorney and not well versed on the issues. She said she is concerned that the F1 amendment violates the intent of the statewide planning goal and she is concerned that allowing the development will eliminate the F1 non-impact forest lands. She urged the Board to resist this amendment to the zoning ordinance.

Karl Sorg, 1150 15th Eugene, read a letter into the record that was given to him from Hilde K. Cherry. Please see attached Exhibit 15. He said she was unable to attend as she had just undergone major surgery.

Bob O' Brien, 3525 Gilham Rd., Eugene, stated he believes zoning is an appropriate function of government and valuable in land use. He urged the Board to protect the F1 lands by keeping the zoning regulations the way they are.

Rachel Rich, 36273 Camp Creek Rd., Springfield, stated she has lived in a rural area for 40 years. She said it is difficult to get the sheriff out for certain dilemmas (like land use violations) and it is unrealistic to spread themselves any thinner.

Michael Jones, 83744 Raintree St., Creswell said he is a small woodlands owner. He said the biggest problem is with neighbors that are zoned F1 when they were harvesting timber. He said he is for the proposal to build one house on 160 acres.

Gordon Howard, P.O. Box 775, Pleasant Hill, said he was the former chair of the Lane County Planning Commission. He read his letter into the record and attached 36 others letters all to implement HB3661 in its entirety, to allow homes on F1 zoned lands. Please see attached Exhibit 16.

Shawn Boles, 105 Adams, Eugene, said he was testifying as a private citizen. He said his opposition stems from a deep sadness in seeing how the word stewardship has been misused in deliberations on this issue. He said stewardship means to see beyond the moment in protecting resources. He asked the Board that before voting on the action to think hard about what is their responsibility to those that elected them.

Curtin Mitchell, 27330 Siuslaw River Road, Lorraine, stated he is an owner of F1 land and F2 land. He read his letter into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 17.

Janice Sunseri, 357 Polk St., Eugene, said that she is a tree planter and constructs hiking trails. She said she has planted trees for major timber companies. She said Eugene has prime forest land and the tree planters would like to keep it that way. She said the timber companies are not looking at the big picture. She said if forest lands are open for development for real estate, it will preclude any possibility that this land could later be purchased by the state or federal government for future national parks.

John Corliss, 2998 Washington, Eugene, quoted comments from the Lane County Soil Survey Report that was published in 1981. He said there are inconsistencies in what the Board said this particular tract of land must produce, and what the soil survey report in 1981 said. He said somewhere there is a problem. He said soils don't change, but ideas on how to use the soils change a lot. He said say no to F1 lands and close up loopholes in F2 lands.

Don Stanley, 82010 Lost Creek Road, Dexter said his concern is clean water. He added he is a retired Bureau of Land Management Road Maintenance Supervisor. He said he has been involved in many years in the timber industry and knows what it takes to destroy clean water. He said the location is upstream and everything that is done upstream affects everyone downstream. He said logging and road building have devastated a lot of the streams. He said there needs to be a vision to see what is going to happen in the future when there is no clean water. He added don't build on F1 forest land.

Ruth Demler, 1745 Fir Crest, Eugene, said many people in the community are concerned about how land, forests and farm lands are treated. She said any changes in the F1 zone is like a knife in the heart of Oregon's land use laws. She urged the Board to say no to opening up forests to housing.

Jane Corliss, 2998 Washington, Eugene, stated there is a real danger to people and property from fire in the forests. She said she was against the changes in the F1 zoning.

Beth Miller, 4441 Fox Hollow, #6, Eugene, said she would like to address points that have been brought up. She said property owners do not have unlimited rights. She said she owns some F1 land through her Oregon Public Employees Retirement Fund investment, and a lot of people that work in Lane County own F1 forest land. She said some private land is publicly traded, corporation land which is owned through retirement portfolios. She added she hopes the Board looks closely into the liability for forest fires. She said those who will vote against having houses in forest lands will do the right thing.

Carol Logan, 2585 "E" St., Springfield, said there are problems taking place in the forest lands and building on them would be harmful. She said cultural resources have not been addressed, nor responsibilities to private landowners complying with state and federal laws protecting the irreplaceable resources. She said there have not been any ethnographic studies that have been done regarding the cultural resources or the sacred sites. She said her people have become like an endangered species because of the resources. She said some plants will not be able to grow back. She said she grew up on a reservation, logging took place and it never benefited the community or the people and sees the movement as an urban development. She asked the Board not to allow this to happen, to remember the history of the people and the land and what it is here for.

Moshe Immerman, 3455 Onyx Place, Eugene, said if it isn't broke, don't fix it. He said the problem hasn't been defined so there is nothing to fix. He said forest fragmentation is a serious problem to forest health. He said this needs to be put to a vote for the entire County if anything is to be done with it. He said it is not a tax payer neutral proposal. He suggested a tax payer impact statement. He said to look at the forest ecology and forest management issues and then put it to a vote, if there is any action.

Linda Pauley, P. O. Box 1351 Eugene, read her letter in the record. Please see attached Exhibit 18.

Chris Attneave, 85328 Willamette, stated she lives on 80 acres of F2 land. She said being able to have a house on forest land is something that means a lot to her. She said she doesn't pay what regular people pay for taxes, it is a more reasonable tax. She said the big tax comes when you cut the trees. She said she is not in favor of Measure 64. She said there are long range responsibilities and global warming is going to be a responsibility to keep forest lands.

Jan Spencer, 283 N. Polk, Eugene, said since 1979, there have been the hottest years on record, globally. He said a healthy forest is great insurance against soil erosion. He added for a timely, slower paced release of water into rivers, intact forests create humidity which is the source of rainfall. He said he would like to see F1 stay "no build" and there should be rules and regulations encouraging to maintain what forests we have. He also agreed to put it to a public vote and a tax payer impact statement for these kind of changes.

Jon Bogust, 38970 Highway 58, said he lived in Lane County for 53 and when he hears the real estate community not believing the testimony of those here tonight who are against F1 changes, it is enough reason to oppose it.

Bud Hinman, 236 Greenvale Drive, stated he is in favor of building on F1 land. He said there will be very few houses or dwellings built in F1 and it will protect the integrity of the land. He added there were others that were going to speak in support, but it got so late they had to leave.

David Zupan, P. O. Box 5031, read his letter into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 19.

Charley McGee, 2679 University, he said just say no.

Emily Fox, 455 E. 31st, Eugene, read her letter into the record. Please see attached Exhibit 20.

There being no one else signed up to speak, Commissioner Cornacchia closed public hearing.

Weeldreyer stated she would like to make a statement to sum up what she had heard. She said many points that had been made tonight were made equally as eloquently over the past two years. She said the one point she did want to make is that contrary to what one speaker said, she believed out of 310,000 that live in Lane County (of all ages of the spectrum, on this issue), the voices heard are representative of them, but it is still not clear as to where the majority of Lane County people are. She said it is hard for her as an elected official to gauge where the center is. She said she remains open minded about the issue as once it is opened, it cannot be closed and looks forward to reading the additional information that was given tonight.

Sorenson thanked all the people who took the time to come and testify. He said this is the first time he had been in a public hearing like this since he has been on the board, to hear this issue. He added it has been educational to him to learn of the different perspectives being offered. He said personally he was impressed with the number and quality of the testimony of people who exhibited opposition. He said as a Board they need to review the materials so they are not jumping the gun in responding to the proposal. He also added that Annabelle Kitzhaber is also opposed to this.

Howe reported that the Board will be arriving at a decision either October 28 at the next meeting, or on November 24.



There being no further business, Commissioner Cornacchia adjourned the meeting at 10:40 p.m.

Melissa Zimmer
Recording Secretary


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